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Edge0-145B review: a big local model with bigger marketing

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Last edited November 13, 2026

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TL;DR

Edge0-145B is a 145-billion-parameter model built to run on one consumer graphics card, and the engineering underneath is real. On Edge0's own tests it scores 86.5 on Terminal-Bench 2.1 and 64.6 on DeepSWE 1.1, ahead of its base model, Qwen3.8-Flash-Next.

The launch claims need footnotes, though. The "29GB" figure leaves out about 31 GiB of system RAM, macOS support isn't in the release, and the weights carry a license that restricts commercial services. My verdict: 3/5, worth testing on an NVIDIA box, not worth rebuilding around yet.

For support teams chasing privacy, the model matters less than what the bot may read. eesel answers only from your approved knowledge, and with the eesel CLI any coding agent can upload that knowledge and run test questions before anything goes live.

How I reviewed Edge0-145B

Edge0 published the release on 13 November, so this review is two days in. I build integrations and APIs at eesel, so I read releases like this the way I read any vendor's docs: the launch post tells you what they want you to believe, and the README tells you what actually ships. I worked from three sources, in this order of trust:

  1. Edge0's own release files. The GitHub README, the Hugging Face model card, and the license provenance file in the repo. These carry the measured numbers.
  2. Edge0's launch post. Useful for intent and demos, but where it disagrees with the README, I side with the README.
  3. Early users. The Hacker News launch thread passed 330 points and 100 comments, with a few people trying it on their own hardware.

I didn't run my own benchmark suite, and no independent lab such as Artificial Analysis had a page for Edge0-145B on 14 November. Treat every score below as Edge0's. If you want the broader model landscape first, my colleagues' DeepSeek V4 Flash and Qwen 4 Max write-ups cover the two families Edge0 compares itself against.

The Hugging Face model card for Edge0-145B Q3_K, listing the edge0-community-model-1.0 license and Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next as the base model, as captured from Hugging Face
The Hugging Face model card for Edge0-145B Q3_K, listing the edge0-community-model-1.0 license and Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next as the base model, as captured from Hugging Face

What is Edge0-145B?

Edge0-145B is a latent mixture-of-experts model from Edge0, a team that previously shipped the Edge0-35B phone model in September and the Audio8 speech models. It has 145B total parameters but only about 10.12B active per token, which is how it fits on hardware that could never hold a dense 145B model.

Here is what the model card says about it:

SpecEdge0-145BEdge0-120B
Total / active parameters145B / 10.12B120B / not stated
Layers and experts48 layers, 512 experts, 10 routed + 1 shared per tokenSame
Expert latent width1,7921,280
Context window256K (KV int8, 32K resident)256K
Builds on Hugging FaceQ3_K (40.81 GiB), NVFP4 (47.79 GiB)Q3_K (27.98 GiB), NVFP4 (32.96 GiB)
Base modelQwen3.8-Flash-NextQwen3.8-Flash-Next
Engineedge0-strata (fork of Strata)edge0-strata

Two lines in that table carry most of the story. The base model is Qwen, and the engine is a fork of the open-source Strata project. Edge0 says so plainly in the README, though the launch post never mentions Qwen at all. That gap is what most early commenters fixed on:

Hacker News

"Based on Qwen3.8-Flash-Next and Strata. They made some interesting tweaks and did some fine tuning on the model, but it's interesting how much marketing speak was layered on their website to hide this fact."

Being a derivative isn't a flaw. Most good open models now start from someone else's base, and the real question is whether Edge0's changes add anything. On that, the answer looks like yes.

What Edge0-145B does well

Three things stood out, and they're all about engineering rather than raw intelligence.

The expert design is clever

Edge0 shares two large matrices across each group of 64 experts, and each expert keeps only a small set of its own parameters. The model card spells out the result: every expert is a fixed 1,630,720-byte record, so the engine can keep a few thousand of the busiest experts on the graphics card and stream the rest from system memory. The cost of that streaming tracks how many experts stay resident, not how big the model is.

Edge0 also trained the model in this shape from the start, natively at 4 bits, instead of shrinking a cloud model after the fact. Speculative decoding through a 1.26B draft head spreads the cost of each weight read across several output tokens. None of this is magic, but it's careful work, and it's why a 145B model runs at all on a 24 GB card.

Its coding and agent scores beat its base model

Edge0's benchmark table shows the largest gains where they matter for local agents:

Hand-drawn bar chart of Edge0's own benchmark results: Edge0-145B scores 64.6 on DeepSWE 1.1, 86.5 on Terminal-Bench 2.1 and 90.4 on GPQA-Diamond, against Qwen3.8-Flash-Next at 58.7, 83.3 and 91.7 and DeepSeek-V4-Flash-0731 at 54.4, 82.7 and 90.8
Hand-drawn bar chart of Edge0's own benchmark results: Edge0-145B scores 64.6 on DeepSWE 1.1, 86.5 on Terminal-Bench 2.1 and 90.4 on GPQA-Diamond, against Qwen3.8-Flash-Next at 58.7, 83.3 and 91.7 and DeepSeek-V4-Flash-0731 at 54.4, 82.7 and 90.8
ModelDeepSWE 1.1Terminal-Bench 2.1HLEGPQA-DiamondIFBenchAA-LCR
Edge0-145B64.686.535.490.480.679.3
Edge0-120B51.375.331.087.479.381.0
Qwen3.8-Flash-Next58.783.335.991.781.379.1
DeepSeek-V4-Flash-073154.482.733.890.879.279.7
Qwen3.8-27B42.273.030.889.279.582.0
Claude Opus 4.6 (Max)n/a78.240.091.362.578.0

The pattern is honest in one way: Edge0-145B beats its base on the two agent benchmarks and slightly trails it on knowledge and reasoning (GPQA, HLE, IFBench). That's what you'd expect from fine-tuning aimed at coding agents. Terminal-Bench in particular tends to track how well a model drives a shell, and one early user put it in context:

Hacker News

"This score is roughly on par with 5.6 Terra max, which in my direct experience is perfectly capable of driving a cloud agent harness that can do pretty complex knowledge work."

If you'd rather compare against current hosted models, my colleagues' GPT-6.1 Terra review and Claude Opus 5.5 review have the independent numbers that Edge0's table lacks.

It's fast on the right hardware

On Edge0's own RTX 5090 D 24 GB machine, the Q3_K build hit 121.2 tokens per second in agent decoding and 3,554.9 tokens per second on a 16K-token prefill. That's quick enough that a local coding loop feels interactive. The launch demos (a Blender city scene, a drone program, a KiCad board) show what that speed is for: dozens of plan, run, and check rounds with no per-token bill. The Edge0 GitHub page has the full speed table and a two-minute showcase video.

The Edge0 GitHub repository README, showing the project tagline, platform list and the latest 145B and 120B release badges, as taken from GitHub
The Edge0 GitHub repository README, showing the project tagline, platform list and the latest 145B and 120B release badges, as taken from GitHub

Where Edge0-145B falls short

Here the launch post and the release files tell different stories. Each point below comes from Edge0's own documents.

"29GB peak memory" isn't the whole footprint

The launch post leads with 29GB peak memory and says the model runs on a 48GB laptop. The same post later describes an expert library of about 40GB in system memory and about 48GB of vocabulary data on the SSD. The README's measured numbers settle it:

Hand-drawn stacked bar showing Edge0-145B Q3_K on one RTX 5090 D: 23.14 GiB in GPU memory plus 31.28 GiB in system RAM, a measured total of 54.4 GiB against the 29GB headline claim, with the n-gram table read from SSD on demand
Hand-drawn stacked bar showing Edge0-145B Q3_K on one RTX 5090 D: 23.14 GiB in GPU memory plus 31.28 GiB in system RAM, a measured total of 54.4 GiB against the 29GB headline claim, with the n-gram table read from SSD on demand

With expert residency on, the Q3_K build used 23.14 GiB of GPU memory plus 31.28 GiB of system RAM. The NVFP4 build used 23.25 GiB plus 38.27 GiB. The 29GB figure looks like one slice of that, most likely the GPU side plus overhead, presented as the whole.

To be fair to Edge0, it also ran the model in a tighter budget: 16 GiB of VRAM and 20 GiB of RAM, with uncached experts read from SSD. It still worked, at 36.8 tokens per second in chat and 44.9 in agent mode. So a smaller machine can run it, just much slower. A Hacker News reader who had hoped to run it on a 48GB MacBook summed up the disappointment:

Hacker News

"If we're talking about ~70GB combined RAM footprint then that's not going to cut it. Still very interesting though."

macOS is in the launch post, not the release

The launch post says day-one support covers macOS, Windows, and Linux, including Apple M-series chips. The README's platform table says something narrower: the 145B and 120B models run on Linux or Windows with an NVIDIA GPU and CUDA 13, and the macOS, iOS, and Android columns are empty for them. Edge0 did publish an Apple M2 Ultra result (57.0 tokens per second agent decode) and adds that it "does not establish macOS release availability." The Edge0 Chat desktop app is Windows-only for now.

Here's what that means in practice:

Hand-drawn decision flow: NVIDIA GPU with CUDA 13, then Linux or Windows, then 16+ GB VRAM, 20+ GB RAM and a fast SSD leads to tested speeds of 37 to 121 tokens per second; Mac, AMD and phones are not supported yet
Hand-drawn decision flow: NVIDIA GPU with CUDA 13, then Linux or Windows, then 16+ GB VRAM, 20+ GB RAM and a fast SSD leads to tested speeds of 37 to 121 tokens per second; Mac, AMD and phones are not supported yet

Mac users can still run the older Edge0-35B on Metal. For the 145B, you need an NVIDIA box today.

The benchmarks are self-reported, and they don't fully agree

Every Edge0, Qwen, DeepSeek, and Claude score in the table comes from Edge0's internal evaluations. Edge0 says the full setup and reproduction steps are "being released with our technical report," and the only technical report published so far covers the 35B model. The numbers also shift between documents: the launch post lists Edge0-120B at 53.6 on DeepSWE and 81.3 on Terminal-Bench, while the README lists 51.3 and 75.3.

The first hands-on reports are mixed. One tester on an NVIDIA DGX Spark couldn't get a useful answer:

Hacker News

"It spent 8,000+ tokens at default thinking and never produced a coherent answer."

One test isn't a verdict, but it's a reason to wait for an independent scorecard before trusting the table. My colleagues' DeepSeek V4.1 Flash review shows what that looks like when a lab has run the numbers.

"Open source" comes with a commercial catch

The launch post says Edge0 is "open-sourcing" the models. The framework code is Apache 2.0, and Strata stays MIT. The weights are different. The model card puts them under the Edge0 Community Model License 1.0, with Qwen's materials still under the Qwen Community License. Personal use, research, modification, internal use, and commercial use of outputs are allowed. Selling or bundling the model, operating a commercial model service, or offering a commercial coding or office assistant needs a separate written license.

For a hobbyist or an internal tooling team, that's fine. For anyone planning to build a product on it, read the license before the README. The Hugging Face review on our blog covers how these custom licenses show up across the hub.

Edge0-145B against the alternatives

Here's how I'd place it next to what a developer would actually consider this week:

If you want...PickWhy
The strongest local coding agent on one NVIDIA cardEdge0-145BBest self-reported Terminal-Bench and DeepSWE scores in its class, 91.7 to 121.2 tok/s on 24 GB cards
The same family with fewer surprisesQwen3.8-Flash-NextThe base model, wider runtime support, close scores on reasoning
A local model on a Mac todayEdge0-35B or another Metal-ready open modelEdge0-145B has no macOS runtime yet
Independent benchmarks and no hardwareDeepSeek V4 Flash or Kimi K3.1 ProHosted, measured by third parties, low per-token prices
Frontier quality and you'll pay for itClaude Opus 5.5 or GPT-6 SolStill ahead on the hardest reasoning

If cost is what's pushing you local, run the math first. The Anthropic API pricing and OpenAI API pricing guides help you compare per-token bills against a GPU that also draws about 120W while it works.

My verdict on Edge0-145B

AreaScoreNote
Engineering4.5/5Shared-matrix experts and SSD streaming are a real step for local inference
Coding and agent scores4/5Strong, but self-reported only
Honesty of launch claims2/529GB, macOS, and "open source" all need footnotes
Ease of setup2.5/5Build from source, NVIDIA plus CUDA 13 only, Windows-only app
License2.5/5Fine for internal use, restrictive for products

Overall: 3/5. If you have an RTX 4090 or 5090 and want a local coding agent, it's worth an afternoon. If you're on a Mac, planning a product, or need independent proof, wait for the technical report and a third-party scorecard. Developers already using Claude Code can try it through its Anthropic-compatible local endpoint, though I haven't tested that pairing myself.

What this review means for support teams

The pitch that will reach support leaders is privacy: run the model on your own hardware and ticket data never leaves the building. I understand the pull. On sales calls, the data question is often the first one. A technical evaluator at a semiconductor-hardware company asked us whether the bot would fall back on "some other ChatGPT" when it didn't know an answer, and whether that could be turned off. A Danish telematics buyer worried about card numbers and passwords sitting inside tickets.

Neither concern was really about where the model runs. Both were about what the AI is allowed to read and say. A local model that answers from its general training is still the "other ChatGPT" that evaluator was worried about. What fixed it for them was an agent that answers only from approved knowledge and says when it doesn't know, plus redaction for sensitive fields.

That's how eesel works, and it's why I'd frame Edge0 as infrastructure while eesel is the employee. You hire an AI helpdesk teammate that joins your existing helpdesk, learns from your help center, macros, and past replies, and gets simulated against historical tickets before it talks to customers. Edge0's license would also block most of what a support vendor does with a model, since a commercial model service needs a separate agreement.

Two customers show what a careful setup looks like. Dokument 24, a Danish legal-documents service, has eesel draft Danish replies as internal notes from about 2,600 web pages and Zendesk items, and the note says so when the knowledge doesn't cover a question. smava, a German loan comparison company in regulated finance, runs about 27,000 Zendesk tickets a month through eesel, which categorised 14,600 and prepared 15,300 draft replies that wait for an advisor's approval.

For more on keeping bots grounded, see our guide to AI hallucinations in support, the MCP for customer support explainer, and the roundup of open-source chatbot platforms if self-hosting is a hard requirement.

Try eesel

If you're reading an Edge0-145B review because your support team wants AI without handing tickets to a black box, start with the part that actually decides privacy and accuracy: what the agent reads and when it hands off. eesel plugs into Zendesk, Freshdesk, and the other major helpdesks, answers only from your approved knowledge, and lets you watch it answer real past tickets before it goes live. Pricing is a fixed monthly credit plan, not per seat.

eesel AI working inside Zendesk, drafting a reply to a support ticket from the team's own help center and past tickets

Developers can drive the same workspace from the eesel CLI. A coding agent, including one pointed at a local model, can upload approved knowledge such as exported help articles and saved replies, adjust the teammate's instructions, and ask test questions to check the answers. Connecting the helpdesk itself still needs someone with admin access to approve it.

Try eesel free, or book a demo to see it run on your own tickets.

Frequently Asked Questions

Is Edge0-145B good?
On Edge0's own benchmarks, yes: 64.6 on DeepSWE 1.1 and 86.5 on Terminal-Bench 2.1, ahead of its base model Qwen3.8-Flash-Next. No independent lab had published scores two days after launch, and early Hacker News testers were split. My Edge0-145B review gives it 3/5: impressive engineering, overstated launch claims. For the base model's background, see my Qwen overview.
How much memory does Edge0-145B need?
More than the 29GB headline suggests. Edge0's own README shows the Q3_K build using 23.14 GiB of GPU memory plus 31.28 GiB of system RAM on an RTX 5090 D, about 54 GiB in total, with an n-gram table read from SSD. Edge0 also ran it inside a 16 GiB VRAM plus 20 GiB RAM budget by streaming experts from SSD, at 36.8 to 44.9 tokens per second.
Does Edge0-145B run on a Mac?
Not yet. The launch post says day-one support covers macOS, but the GitHub README lists only Linux and Windows with an NVIDIA GPU and CUDA 13 for the 145B and 120B models. Edge0 published an Apple M2 Ultra speed result and says it does not establish macOS availability. Mac owners can run the older Edge0-35B. If you want a hosted option instead, my Qwen alternatives roundup covers cloud models.
Is Edge0-145B open source?
The inference framework is Apache 2.0, but the model weights are under the Edge0 Community Model License 1.0 plus the Qwen Community License. Personal, research, and internal use are allowed. Running a commercial model service, or selling a coding or office assistant built on it, needs a separate written license from Edge0. Compare that with the terms in my DeepSeek V4 Flash review.
Is Edge0-145B based on Qwen?
Yes. The Hugging Face model card lists Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next as the base model, and the GitHub README calls the 145B and 120B models latent mixture-of-experts models derived from it. The engine, edge0-strata, is a fork of the Strata project. Edge0 changed the expert design and trained the model natively at 4 bits. More on the Qwen family in my Qwen review.
How fast is Edge0-145B?
On Edge0's fastest measured setup, an RTX 5090 D with the Q3_K build, it reached 121.2 tokens per second in agent decoding and 3,554.9 tokens per second for a 16K prefill. An RTX 4090 managed 91.7 agent decode, and the RTX Spark N1X 36.7 to 46.0. These are Edge0's single-run measurements, not independent tests.
How much does Edge0-145B cost?
The weights are a free download, and local inference has no per-token fee. The real cost is hardware and electricity, and, for commercial services, a separate Edge0 license. If you would rather pay per token for a hosted model, see DeepSeek V4 Flash pricing or Qwen pricing.
Should a support team run Edge0-145B for customer service?
Not yet for a customer-facing bot. The license restricts commercial model services, the scores are self-reported, and data privacy problems in support usually come from what the bot is allowed to read, not where the model runs. An AI helpdesk agent that answers only from approved knowledge solves more of that than a local model alone.

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