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On 12/30/18 6:20 PM, KARAKOULA GEORGIA wrote:
> Platform: Windows 7
> 
> Application: Childsplay
> 
> Version: 1.6
> 
> Activity:match small letters
> 
> Language: Greek
> 
> Description of problem:
> 
> No small letters in the matching game for small letters (the letters are 
> capital).
> 
> Also there not greek alphabet letters  but english alphabet letters.

Childsplay is currently in so called maintenance mode which means only 
security bugs are fixed and provided patches are applied.
If you want to add something to childsplay you are free to add it 
yourself or find somebody who can do it for you, sorry.


> 
> 
> (i have downloaded the version from sourceforge)
> 
> 
> Congratulations for your work! Please let me know if i could help.
> I am an ICT teacher in a greek school, perhaps I could help you.
> 
> I saw this game some years ago, and now that I have founded,
> I would like to install it in my new school.
> 
> I wish you all the best. Kind regards
> 
> Georgia Karakoula
> 
> 
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Regards,
Stas Zytkiewicz

Platform: Windows 7 

Application: Childsplay 

Version: 1.6 

Activity:match small letters 

Language: Greek 

Description of problem: 

No small letters in the matching game for small letters (the letters are
capital). 

Also there not greek alphabet letters  but english alphabet letters. 

(i have downloaded the version from sourceforge) 

Congratulations for your work! Please let me know if i could help. 
I am an ICT teacher in a greek school, perhaps I could help you. 

I saw this game some years ago, and now that I have founded,
I would like to install it in my new school. 

I wish you all the best. Kind regards 

Georgia Karakoula

greetings Childsplay

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good afternoon childsplay



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Hi all,

due to some proprietary images in Childsplay 1.5, we had to make a new
release: 1.6.
No functional changes, only those images.

Windows version can be found at:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/schoolsplay/files/childsplay_sp-win32/1.6/Childsplay-1.6_win32.exe/download

Chris

Hi Stas,

I got it running already on XP, with only an update necessary for SqlAlchemy.
I'll have to see how to make an installer now it can run from
directory. (shouldn't be too hard)

Problem:
In FindSound activity, I get an error message after clicking away the
last animal.  Can't find the log file however, where should I find it?

I'll send you also some possible cosmetic improvements in a seperate document.
We really need a graphical artist!

I'll also try to install my environment completely new, to help the
interim of Formatics.

Greets,

Chris


On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 3:00 PM, stas zytkiewicz
<sta...@gm...> wrote:
> Hello, as I'm planning a brand new release of childsplay I also have
> updated the website. The website is hosted (again) at sourceforge.
> http://www.schoolsplay.org
> It's a design provided by Chris.
> It's not complete finished but the most important stuff is available.
> The downloads still links to the old versions but as soon as the new
> version is available I will update the links.
>
> A major difference with the old childsplay version is that's now possible
> to add user provided content for the games like puzzle images, quiz content,
> images for the new "find the differences" game etc.
> The way to add your content is by using a webbased platform provided
> by Formatics.nl, the company that supports the development of childsplay.
> The webbased platform will be available soon.
>
> I know, much of this stuff isn't available but consider this mail as
> 'insider info' :-)
>
> Stas
>
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Hello, as I'm planning a brand new release of childsplay I also have
updated the website. The website is hosted (again) at sourceforge.
http://www.schoolsplay.org
It's a design provided by Chris.
It's not complete finished but the most important stuff is available.
The downloads still links to the old versions but as soon as the new
version is available I will update the links.

A major difference with the old childsplay version is that's now possible
to add user provided content for the games like puzzle images, quiz content,
images for the new "find the differences" game etc.
The way to add your content is by using a webbased platform provided
by Formatics.nl, the company that supports the development of childsplay.
The webbased platform will be available soon.

I know, much of this stuff isn't available but consider this mail as
'insider info' :-)

Stas

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Hi all,

I just uploaded a windows installer for Childsplay 1.5.1.
Changes are mainly related to Brazilian Portuguese language support (PT_BR).
For the rest no real functional changes with regards to 1.5
You can find it at the usual place.

Greets,

Chris

Hi all,

finally I came around to making a Windows version of Childsplay 1.4.
You can find at the following link:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/schoolsplay/files/childsplay_sp-win32/1.4/Childsplay-1.4_win32.exe/download

Greets,

Chris

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Chris Van
Bael<chr...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Childsplay and Cognitionplay have been mentioned as one of "50 open
> source applications transforming education"!

Awesome, it at place 15, just above Gcompris :-)

Stas

> http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.phpr/3831751/50-Open-Source-Apps-Transforming-Education.htm.htm
>
> Nice to see ;-)
> Just wait until Schoolsplay is fully up and running!
>
> Chris
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AWESOME !

Am 29.07.2009 um 12:14 schrieb Chris Van Bael:

>
> Hi,
>
> Childsplay and Cognitionplay have been mentioned as one of "50 open
> source applications transforming education"!
> http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.phpr/3831751/50-Open- 
> Source-Apps-Transforming-Education.htm.htm
>
> Nice to see ;-)
> Just wait until Schoolsplay is fully up and running!
>
> Chris
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Hi,

Childsplay and Cognitionplay have been mentioned as one of "50 open
source applications transforming education"!
http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.phpr/3831751/50-Open-Source-Apps-Transforming-Education.htm.htm

Nice to see ;-)
Just wait until Schoolsplay is fully up and running!

Chris

>>
>> Here they are not created. The install script just mentions 
>> /usr/local/share/childsplay_sp/ but not 
>> /usr/local/share/cognitionplay.
>>
>> At least the other error occured not again now. I uninstalled and 
>> deleted /usr/local/share/cognitionplay and installed everything 
>> again.
>> But I still had to sudo mkdir /usr/local/share/cognitionplay
>> juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ sudo cp -r 
>> /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/lib/* 
>> /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/
>>
>> But now it works.
> You mean you can run cognitionplay ?


yes


> (I don't hav ethe time anymore to dig through the stuff below :-)
> I'm also wrestling with the broken SF file release system, it's
> ridiculous that such a organization
> can break so much stuff.
> I fear we can't release stuff for a little while :-(
>
> Stas

Don't worry.
Enjoy your well deserved holiday. We'll continue afterwards.

Markus

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:47 PM, markus.klein<mar...@la...> wrote:
>
>
>> >
>> > sudo mkdir /usr/local/share/cognitionplay
>> > sudo mkdir /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData
>> > sudo mkdir /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu
>> Were these directories not crated by the install script ??
>>
>
> Here they are not created. The install script just mentions /usr/local/share/childsplay_sp/ but not /usr/local/share/cognitionplay.
>
> At least the other error occured not again now. I uninstalled and deleted /usr/local/share/cognitionplay and installed everything again.
> But I still had to sudo mkdir /usr/local/share/cognitionplay
> juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ sudo cp -r /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/lib/* /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/
>
> But now it works.
You mean you can run cognitionplay ?
(I don't hav ethe time anymore to dig through the stuff below :-)
I'm also wrestling with the broken SF file release system, it's
ridiculous that such a organization
can break so much stuff.
I fear we can't release stuff for a little while :-(

Stas


> Complete log again:
> juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~$ cd installer/cognitionplay-1.4
> juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ sudo python setup.py uninstall
> [sudo] password for juklein:
>
> ------------ Uninstalling cognitionplay ----------------
>
> I'm going to completely remove cognitionplay from your system.
> Hit 'y' to remove cognitionplay > y
> Found an existing FlashcardsData/names directory used by the Flashcards activity
> It can contain localized soundfiles so I will save it and restore it after the
> new FlashcardsData directory is installed.
> Found an old /usr/local/share/childsplay_sp directory, removing it... done
> /usr/local/share/locale
> Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
> Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
> Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
> Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
> Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/sl/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
> Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/vi/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
> Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
> Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
> Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/nb/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
> Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
> Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/ro/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
> Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/ca/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
> Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/uk/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
> Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
> Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/pt/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
> Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/el/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
> Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/ar/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
> Found an old /usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp directory, removing it... done
> Looking for previous childsplay python install in /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp
> Found old childsplay_sp python package in /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp, removing it... done
> Found an old /usr/local/bin/cognitionplay file, removing it... done
> cognitionplay IS REMOVED
> Bye...
> juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ ls /usr/local/share/
> applications doc icons mime sgml
> cognitionplay fonts locale perl sp_alphabetsounds
> desktop-directories games man ppd xml
> juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ sudo rm -rf /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/
> juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ sudo python setup.py install
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> This script will install cognitionplay on your system.
> All the Python modules are installed in the default Python location on your
> system, on most GNU/Linux systems that's '/python/site-packages'.
> The rest of the modules and files are installed in /usr/local/childsplay_sp.
>
> You can change the non-python install location by altering the variable called
> 'PREFIX' inside this script.
> (Change it only if you understand why you want to change it)
> This script also generate a module with all the paths needed by cognitionplay.
>
> Childsplay is "fun and games" part of the schoolsplay project and uses many
> of the schoolsplay modules. See www.schoolsplay.org, for more info.
> This means that sometimes it's possible that certain messages speak of
> "schoolsplay", you can just read "cognitionplay" instead.
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Hit any key to continue
>
>
> ------------ Installing non-python files ------------
>
> Checking for Windows version...
> No Windows found, your must be a sensible person.
> Creating /usr/local/share/childsplay_sp... done
> Copy cognitionplay activity data dirs...
> copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/lib/SPData to
> /usr/local/share/childsplay_sp/SPData
> copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/lib/CPData to
> /usr/local/share/childsplay_sp/CPData
> done
> Removing old English alphabetsounds directory
> done
> Copy cognitionplay English alphabetsounds directory...
> copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/alphabetsounds/en to
> /usr/local/share/sp_alphabetsounds/en
> done
> /usr/local/share/locale
> Creating /usr/local/share/locale... done
> Copy localization files...
> Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES done
> Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES done
> Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES done
> Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES done
> Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/sl/LC_MESSAGES done
> Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/vi/LC_MESSAGES done
> Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES done
> Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES done
> Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/nb/LC_MESSAGES done
> Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES done
> Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/ro/LC_MESSAGES done
> Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/ca/LC_MESSAGES done
> Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/uk/LC_MESSAGES done
> Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES done
> Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/pt/LC_MESSAGES done
> Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/el/LC_MESSAGES done
> Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/ar/LC_MESSAGES done
> Creating /usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp... done
> Copy documentation files...
> copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/doc/copyright.txt to
> /usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp/copyright.txt
> copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/doc/artwork_specs.odt to
> /usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp/artwork_specs.odt
> copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/doc/license.txt to
> /usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp/license.txt
> copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/doc/Howto_datacollecting.odt to
> /usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp/Howto_datacollecting.odt
> copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/doc/Activity_Layout_Howto.odt to
> /usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp/Activity_Layout_Howto.odt
> copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/doc/Howto_menu.odt to
> /usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp/Howto_menu.odt
> copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/doc/Activity_Creation_Howto.odt to
> /usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp/Activity_Creation_Howto.odt
> copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/doc/GPL-3 to
> /usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp/GPL-3
> Looking for previous childsplay python install in /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp
> Install cognitionplay programs...
> copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/bin/cognitionplay.org to
> /usr/local/bin
> copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/bin/cognitionplay to
> /usr/local/bin
> Not found destination path: /usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages
> This is a known problem on some Debian based systems like Ubuntu 9.04 and newer.
> If your not on a Debian based system, please inform the childsplay developers
> Using /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp as the install path
> Writing the SPBasePaths module... done
>
> ------------- Installing Python modules ------------------
>
> Installing new childsplay_sp python package...
> Installing childsplay_sp ocempgui...
> Installing defaultrc in ocempgui.widgets.themes.default...
> copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/ocempgui/widgets/themes/default/default.rc to
> /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/ocempgui/widgets/themes/default
> All done
>
> Removing from the sourcedir SPBasePaths.py ... Installation finished
>
> ====== all done ======
> cognitionplay is installed in /usr/local/bin/cognitionplay
> To start cognitionplay just type 'cognitionplay' in a xterm
> To see the available commandline options type 'cognitionplay --help in a xterm
>
> juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ ls /usr/local/share/
> applications doc icons mime sgml
> childsplay_sp fonts locale perl sp_alphabetsounds
> desktop-directories games man ppd xml
> juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ cognitionplay
> 2009-07-28 19:32:24,259 - schoolsplay.SPMainCore.MainCoreGui - ERROR - Could not load image "logo_cp_32x32.xpm"
> Couldn't open /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu/default/logo_cp_32x32.xpm
> 2009-07-28 19:32:26,210 - schoolsplay.utils - ERROR - Could not load image "/usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu/default/spgdm_back.png"
> Couldn't open /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu/default/spgdm_back.png
> 2009-07-28 19:32:26,212 - schoolsplay - ERROR - unhandled exception in toplevel, traceback follows:
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "/usr/local/bin/cognitionplay", line 133, in
> language=LANG)
> File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/SPMainCore.py", line 199, in __init__
> self.dm = SPDataManager.DataManager(self.spgoodies)
> File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/SPDataManager.py", line 92, in __init__
> self._start_gdm_greeter(self.cmd_options)# changes self.anonymous when users give no name
> File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/SPDataManager.py", line 110, in _start_gdm_greeter
> fullscr=self.cmd_options.fullscreen)# returns when user hits login button
> File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/SPgdm.py", line 86, in __init__
> back = load_image(p)
> File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/utils.py", line 326, in load_image
> raise MyError('Could not load image "%s"\n %s' % (file, pygame.get_error()))
> MyError: : Could not load image "/usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu/default/spgdm_back.png"
> Couldn't open /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu/default/spgdm_back.png
> juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ sudo cp /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/
> alphabetsounds/ names_back/ SPLogging.py
> bin/ ocempgui/ SPMainCore.py
> BorgSingleton.py pangofont.py SPMenu.py
> build/ po/ SPocwWidgets.py
> cairoimage.py README SPOptionParser.py
> Changelog README.Cognitionplay SPSpriteUtils.py
> check_dbase.py setup.py SPVersion.py
> COPYING SPConstants.py SPVirtualkeyboard.py
> doc/ SPCoreButtons.py SQLTables.py
> gui/ SPDataManager.py Timer.py
> HyperText/ SPgdm.py utils.py
> __init__.py SPGoodies.py Version.py
> lib/ SPHelpText.py Version.pyc
> locale/ SPKeyMaps.py
> juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ sudo mkdir /usr/local/share/cognitionplay
> juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ sudo cp -r /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/lib/* /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/
> juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ cognitionplay
>
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El Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 03:54:37PM +0200, isa zen va escriure:
> I've got big problems with my computer when trying to upgrade to high to the
> testing version of Ubuntu Karmic, so I reinstalled the "recent" Ubuntu Hardy
> 8.04.3.

That's an update of an old release (it was released more than 15 months ago),
not a recent release and that means that only buggy or hardware related
packages are upgraded.

> When I wanted to install childsplay by synaptic, it's only the 0.85 version
> avalaible ! So I went to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/childsplay and
> I discovered that was true till Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty) ! They're only test
> Childsplay 1.1.2 in next Ubuntu 9.10 when Childsplay is up to version 1.3.

Have you actually looked at the version changes? The 1.1-2 package in Debian
(the one on Ubuntu 9.10) is the same as the 1.3 upstream package, the problems
solved between 1.1 and 1.3 are related to the installation using setup.py, so
I did not uploaded a new package at the time, but I'll do it now, as I have
the time to do it and makes sense to avoid user confusions; I suppose it will
not go into 9.10 but as I said the packages are almost equal, so it is not a
big issue.

> So I wonder why such a difference between childsplay's versions available in
> Ubuntu repositories and these available on
> sourceforge<http://www.schoolsplay.org/>?

Ubuntu syncs with Debian unstable at each release cycle and as Debian was
freezed I didn't upload an upgraded package to Debian in time to be included
in Jaunty, as I waited for 1.0 to go out.  In any case you can install the
.deb in Debian and it will work without problems, as far as I know.

> Is it the same for other Linux distributions ?
> 
> It's not a critic, it's just a question ;) I'd like to understand that
> point, if you can explain me it'd be great !

Greetings,

  Sergio.

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> >
> > sudo mkdir /usr/local/share/cognitionplay
> > sudo mkdir /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData
> > sudo mkdir /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu
> Were these directories not crated by the install script ??
> 

Here they are not created. The install script just mentions /usr/local/share/childsplay_sp/ but not /usr/local/share/cognitionplay.

At least the other error occured not again now. I uninstalled and deleted /usr/local/share/cognitionplay and installed everything again. 
But I still had to sudo mkdir /usr/local/share/cognitionplay
juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ sudo cp -r /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/lib/* /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/

But now it works.

Complete log again:
juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~$ cd installer/cognitionplay-1.4
juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ sudo python setup.py uninstall
[sudo] password for juklein: 

------------ Uninstalling cognitionplay ----------------

I'm going to completely remove cognitionplay from your system.
Hit 'y' to remove cognitionplay > y
Found an existing FlashcardsData/names directory used by the Flashcards activity
It can contain localized soundfiles so I will save it and restore it after the
new FlashcardsData directory is installed.
Found an old /usr/local/share/childsplay_sp directory, removing it... done
/usr/local/share/locale
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/sl/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/vi/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/nb/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/ro/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/ca/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/uk/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/pt/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/el/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/ar/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Found an old /usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp directory, removing it... done
Looking for previous childsplay python install in /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp
Found old childsplay_sp python package in /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp, removing it... done
Found an old /usr/local/bin/cognitionplay file, removing it... done
cognitionplay IS REMOVED
Bye...
juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ ls /usr/local/share/
applications doc icons mime sgml
cognitionplay fonts locale perl sp_alphabetsounds
desktop-directories games man ppd xml
juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ sudo rm -rf /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/
juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ sudo python setup.py install

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This script will install cognitionplay on your system.
All the Python modules are installed in the default Python location on your
system, on most GNU/Linux systems that's '/python/site-packages'.
The rest of the modules and files are installed in /usr/local/childsplay_sp.

You can change the non-python install location by altering the variable called
'PREFIX' inside this script.
(Change it only if you understand why you want to change it)
This script also generate a module with all the paths needed by cognitionplay.

Childsplay is "fun and games" part of the schoolsplay project and uses many
of the schoolsplay modules. See www.schoolsplay.org, for more info.
This means that sometimes it's possible that certain messages speak of
"schoolsplay", you can just read "cognitionplay" instead.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Hit any key to continue


------------ Installing non-python files ------------

Checking for Windows version...
No Windows found, your must be a sensible person.
Creating /usr/local/share/childsplay_sp... done
Copy cognitionplay activity data dirs...
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/lib/SPData to
/usr/local/share/childsplay_sp/SPData
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/lib/CPData to
/usr/local/share/childsplay_sp/CPData
done
Removing old English alphabetsounds directory
done
Copy cognitionplay English alphabetsounds directory...
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/alphabetsounds/en to
/usr/local/share/sp_alphabetsounds/en
done
/usr/local/share/locale
Creating /usr/local/share/locale... done
Copy localization files...
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/sl/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/vi/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/nb/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/ro/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/ca/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/uk/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/pt/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/el/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/ar/LC_MESSAGES done
Creating /usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp... done
Copy documentation files...
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/doc/copyright.txt to
/usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp/copyright.txt
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/doc/artwork_specs.odt to
/usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp/artwork_specs.odt
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/doc/license.txt to
/usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp/license.txt
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/doc/Howto_datacollecting.odt to
/usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp/Howto_datacollecting.odt
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/doc/Activity_Layout_Howto.odt to
/usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp/Activity_Layout_Howto.odt
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/doc/Howto_menu.odt to
/usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp/Howto_menu.odt
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/doc/Activity_Creation_Howto.odt to
/usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp/Activity_Creation_Howto.odt
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/doc/GPL-3 to
/usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp/GPL-3
Looking for previous childsplay python install in /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp
Install cognitionplay programs...
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/bin/cognitionplay.org to
/usr/local/bin
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/bin/cognitionplay to
/usr/local/bin
Not found destination path: /usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages
This is a known problem on some Debian based systems like Ubuntu 9.04 and newer.
If your not on a Debian based system, please inform the childsplay developers
Using /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp as the install path
Writing the SPBasePaths module... done

------------- Installing Python modules ------------------

Installing new childsplay_sp python package...
Installing childsplay_sp ocempgui...
Installing defaultrc in ocempgui.widgets.themes.default...
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/ocempgui/widgets/themes/default/default.rc to
/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/ocempgui/widgets/themes/default
All done

Removing from the sourcedir SPBasePaths.py ... Installation finished

====== all done ======
cognitionplay is installed in /usr/local/bin/cognitionplay
To start cognitionplay just type 'cognitionplay' in a xterm
To see the available commandline options type 'cognitionplay --help in a xterm

juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ ls /usr/local/share/
applications doc icons mime sgml
childsplay_sp fonts locale perl sp_alphabetsounds
desktop-directories games man ppd xml
juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ cognitionplay
2009-07-28 19:32:24,259 - schoolsplay.SPMainCore.MainCoreGui - ERROR - Could not load image "logo_cp_32x32.xpm"
Couldn't open /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu/default/logo_cp_32x32.xpm
2009-07-28 19:32:26,210 - schoolsplay.utils - ERROR - Could not load image "/usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu/default/spgdm_back.png"
Couldn't open /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu/default/spgdm_back.png
2009-07-28 19:32:26,212 - schoolsplay - ERROR - unhandled exception in toplevel, traceback follows:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/bin/cognitionplay", line 133, in 
language=LANG)
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/SPMainCore.py", line 199, in __init__
self.dm = SPDataManager.DataManager(self.spgoodies)
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/SPDataManager.py", line 92, in __init__
self._start_gdm_greeter(self.cmd_options)# changes self.anonymous when users give no name
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/SPDataManager.py", line 110, in _start_gdm_greeter
fullscr=self.cmd_options.fullscreen)# returns when user hits login button
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/SPgdm.py", line 86, in __init__
back = load_image(p)
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/utils.py", line 326, in load_image
raise MyError('Could not load image "%s"\n %s' % (file, pygame.get_error()))
MyError: : Could not load image "/usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu/default/spgdm_back.png"
Couldn't open /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu/default/spgdm_back.png
juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ sudo cp /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/
alphabetsounds/ names_back/ SPLogging.py
bin/ ocempgui/ SPMainCore.py
BorgSingleton.py pangofont.py SPMenu.py
build/ po/ SPocwWidgets.py
cairoimage.py README SPOptionParser.py
Changelog README.Cognitionplay SPSpriteUtils.py
check_dbase.py setup.py SPVersion.py
COPYING SPConstants.py SPVirtualkeyboard.py
doc/ SPCoreButtons.py SQLTables.py
gui/ SPDataManager.py Timer.py
HyperText/ SPgdm.py utils.py
__init__.py SPGoodies.py Version.py
lib/ SPHelpText.py Version.pyc
locale/ SPKeyMaps.py 
juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ sudo mkdir /usr/local/share/cognitionplay
juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ sudo cp -r /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/lib/* /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/
juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ cognitionplay


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On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:26 PM, markus.klein<mar...@la...> wrote:
>
> Hi, I hope this is manageable in the last minute: Install went fine, run does not.
>
[..]
>
> ====== all done ======
> cognitionplay is installed in /usr/local/bin/cognitionplay
> To start cognitionplay just type 'cognitionplay' in a xterm
> To see the available commandline options type 'cognitionplay --help in a xterm
>
> juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ cd
> juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~$ cognitionplay
> cognitionplay cognitionplay.org
> juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~$ cognitionplay
> 2009-07-28 18:22:49,569 - schoolsplay.SPMainCore.MainCoreGui - ERROR - Could not load image "logo_cp_32x32.xpm"
> Couldn't open /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu/default/logo_cp_32x32.xpm
> 2009-07-28 18:22:53,645 - schoolsplay.utils - ERROR - Could not load image "/usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu/default/spgdm_back.png"
> Couldn't open /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu/default/spgdm_back.png
> 2009-07-28 18:22:53,647 - schoolsplay - ERROR - unhandled exception in toplevel, traceback follows:
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "/usr/local/bin/cognitionplay", line 133, in
> language=LANG)
> File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/SPMainCore.py", line 199, in __init__
> self.dm = SPDataManager.DataManager(self.spgoodies)
> File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/SPDataManager.py", line 92, in __init__
> self._start_gdm_greeter(self.cmd_options)# changes self.anonymous when users give no name
> File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/SPDataManager.py", line 110, in _start_gdm_greeter
> fullscr=self.cmd_options.fullscreen)# returns when user hits login button
> File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/SPgdm.py", line 86, in __init__
> back = load_image(p)
> File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/utils.py", line 326, in load_image
> raise MyError('Could not load image "%s"\n %s' % (file, pygame.get_error()))
> MyError: : Could not load image "/usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu/default/spgdm_back.png"
> Couldn't open /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu/default/spgdm_back.png
> juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~$
This indicates a broken install which is weird as the install script runs fine.

I'm sorry to say that I don't have a solution at this moment as I
can't reproduce it
on my Ubuntu system :-(

The only thing you could try is to manually remove the stuff CNP
installed and rerun
the install script.

Stas

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http://www.schoolsplay.org  and http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Schoolsplay
http://gvr.sf.net and http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Guido_van_Robot

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:39 PM, markus.klein<mar...@la...> wrote:
>
>
> Additional error:
>
> sudo mkdir /usr/local/share/cognitionplay
> sudo mkdir /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData
> sudo mkdir /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu
Were these directories not crated by the install script ??

Stas

> sudo cp -r /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/lib/SPData/menu/* /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu/
>
> juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~$ cognitionplay
> 2009-07-28 18:35:47,665 - schoolsplay - ERROR - unhandled exception in toplevel, traceback follows:
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "/usr/local/bin/cognitionplay", line 133, in
> language=LANG)
> File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/SPMainCore.py", line 261, in __init__
> self.core_dice_button_pressed)
> File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/SPCoreButtons.py", line 149, in __init__
> self._current_but = self._butdict[1]
> KeyError: 1
> juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~$
>
>
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http://www.schoolsplay.org  and http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Schoolsplay
http://gvr.sf.net and http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Guido_van_Robot

Additional error:

sudo mkdir /usr/local/share/cognitionplay
sudo mkdir /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData
sudo mkdir /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu

sudo cp -r /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/lib/SPData/menu/* /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu/

juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~$ cognitionplay
2009-07-28 18:35:47,665 - schoolsplay - ERROR - unhandled exception in toplevel, traceback follows:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/bin/cognitionplay", line 133, in 
language=LANG)
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/SPMainCore.py", line 261, in __init__
self.core_dice_button_pressed)
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/SPCoreButtons.py", line 149, in __init__
self._current_but = self._butdict[1]
KeyError: 1
juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~$ 


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Hi, I hope this is manageable in the last minute: Install went fine, run does not.

juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer$ ls
cognitionplay-1.4 cognitionplay-1.4.tar install-crossover-pro-6.2.0.sh
juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer$ cd cognitionplay-1.4
juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ ls
alphabetsounds __init__.py SPCoreButtons.py SPOptionParser.py
bin lib SPDataManager.py SPSpriteUtils.py
BorgSingleton.py locale SPgdm.py SPVersion.py
cairoimage.py ocempgui SPGoodies.py SPVirtualkeyboard.py
Changelog pangofont.py SPHelpText.py SQLTables.py
check_dbase.py po SPKeyMaps.py Timer.py
COPYING README SPLogging.py utils.py
doc README.Cognitionplay SPMainCore.py Version.py
gui setup.py SPMenu.py
HyperText SPConstants.py SPocwWidgets.py
juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ sudo python setup.py install
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------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This script will install cognitionplay on your system.
All the Python modules are installed in the default Python location on your
system, on most GNU/Linux systems that's '/python/site-packages'.
The rest of the modules and files are installed in /usr/local/childsplay_sp.

You can change the non-python install location by altering the variable called
'PREFIX' inside this script.
(Change it only if you understand why you want to change it)
This script also generate a module with all the paths needed by cognitionplay.

Childsplay is "fun and games" part of the schoolsplay project and uses many
of the schoolsplay modules. See www.schoolsplay.org, for more info.
This means that sometimes it's possible that certain messages speak of
"schoolsplay", you can just read "cognitionplay" instead.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Hit any key to continue


------------ Installing non-python files ------------

Checking for Windows version...
No Windows found, your must be a sensible person.
Found an existing FlashcardsData/names directory used by the Flashcards activity
It can contain localized soundfiles so I will save it and restore it after the
new FlashcardsData directory is installed.
Found an old /usr/local/share/childsplay_sp directory, removing it... done
Creating /usr/local/share/childsplay_sp... done
Copy cognitionplay activity data dirs...
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/lib/SPData to
/usr/local/share/childsplay_sp/SPData
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/lib/CPData to
/usr/local/share/childsplay_sp/CPData
done
restore /usr/local/share/childsplay_sp/CPData/FlashcardsData/names
Removing old English alphabetsounds directory
done
Copy cognitionplay English alphabetsounds directory...
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/alphabetsounds/en to
/usr/local/share/sp_alphabetsounds/en
done
/usr/local/share/locale
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/sl/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/vi/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/nb/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/ro/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/ca/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/el/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Removed old localization file: /usr/local/share/locale/ar/LC_MESSAGES/childsplay_sp.mo done
Creating /usr/local/share/locale... done
Copy localization files...
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/sl/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/vi/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/nb/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/ro/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/ca/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/uk/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/pt/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/el/LC_MESSAGES done
Install localization file in: /usr/local/share/locale/ar/LC_MESSAGES done
Found an old /usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp directory, removing it... done
Creating /usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp... done
Copy documentation files...
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/doc/copyright.txt to
/usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp/copyright.txt
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/doc/artwork_specs.odt to
/usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp/artwork_specs.odt
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/doc/license.txt to
/usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp/license.txt
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/doc/Howto_datacollecting.odt to
/usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp/Howto_datacollecting.odt
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/doc/Activity_Layout_Howto.odt to
/usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp/Activity_Layout_Howto.odt
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/doc/Howto_menu.odt to
/usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp/Howto_menu.odt
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/doc/Activity_Creation_Howto.odt to
/usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp/Activity_Creation_Howto.odt
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/doc/GPL-3 to
/usr/local/share/doc/childsplay_sp/GPL-3
Looking for previous childsplay python install in /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp
Install cognitionplay programs...
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/bin/cognitionplay.org to
/usr/local/bin
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/bin/cognitionplay to
/usr/local/bin
Not found destination path: /usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages
This is a known problem on some Debian based systems like Ubuntu 9.04 and newer.
If your not on a Debian based system, please inform the childsplay developers
Using /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp as the install path
Writing the SPBasePaths module... done

------------- Installing Python modules ------------------

Installing new childsplay_sp python package...
Installing childsplay_sp ocempgui...
Installing defaultrc in ocempgui.widgets.themes.default...
copy /home/juklein/installer/cognitionplay-1.4/ocempgui/widgets/themes/default/default.rc to
/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/ocempgui/widgets/themes/default
All done

Removing from the sourcedir SPBasePaths.py ... Installation finished

====== all done ======
cognitionplay is installed in /usr/local/bin/cognitionplay
To start cognitionplay just type 'cognitionplay' in a xterm
To see the available commandline options type 'cognitionplay --help in a xterm

juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~/installer/cognitionplay-1.4$ cd
juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~$ cognitionplay
cognitionplay cognitionplay.org 
juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~$ cognitionplay
2009-07-28 18:22:49,569 - schoolsplay.SPMainCore.MainCoreGui - ERROR - Could not load image "logo_cp_32x32.xpm"
Couldn't open /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu/default/logo_cp_32x32.xpm
2009-07-28 18:22:53,645 - schoolsplay.utils - ERROR - Could not load image "/usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu/default/spgdm_back.png"
Couldn't open /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu/default/spgdm_back.png
2009-07-28 18:22:53,647 - schoolsplay - ERROR - unhandled exception in toplevel, traceback follows:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/bin/cognitionplay", line 133, in 
language=LANG)
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/SPMainCore.py", line 199, in __init__
self.dm = SPDataManager.DataManager(self.spgoodies)
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/SPDataManager.py", line 92, in __init__
self._start_gdm_greeter(self.cmd_options)# changes self.anonymous when users give no name
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/SPDataManager.py", line 110, in _start_gdm_greeter
fullscr=self.cmd_options.fullscreen)# returns when user hits login button
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/SPgdm.py", line 86, in __init__
back = load_image(p)
File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/childsplay_sp/utils.py", line 326, in load_image
raise MyError('Could not load image "%s"\n %s' % (file, pygame.get_error()))
MyError: : Could not load image "/usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu/default/spgdm_back.png"
Couldn't open /usr/local/share/cognitionplay/SPData/menu/default/spgdm_back.png
juklein@Julia-Ubuntu:~$ 


> Message du 28/07/09 16:53
> De : "stas zytkiewicz" 
> A : "isa zen" 
> Copie à : sch...@li..., "childplay-devel" 
> Objet : Re: [Schoolsplay-devel] why a so low childsplay's version on Ubuntu repositories ?
>
> 
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:54 PM, isa zen wrote:
> 
> > I've got big problems with my computer when trying to upgrade to high to the
> > testing version of Ubuntu Karmic, so I reinstalled the "recent" Ubuntu Hardy
> > 8.04.3.
> > When I wanted to install childsplay by synaptic, it's only the 0.85 version
> > avalaible ! So I went to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/childsplay and
> > I discovered that was true till Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty) ! They're only test
> > Childsplay 1.1.2 in next Ubuntu 9.10 when Childsplay is up to version 1.3.
> >
> > So I wonder why such a difference between childsplay's versions available in
> > Ubuntu repositories and these available on sourceforge ?
> > Is it the same for other Linux distributions ?
> I don't know why they still use old versions, Ubuntu is based on Debian which
> is pretty much up to date thanks to Sergio.
> My guess is that the Ubuntu people don't sync very often with Debian.
> 
> > It's not a critic, it's just a question ;) I'd like to understand that
> > point, if you can explain me it'd be great !
> >
> > Thanks.
> > Have nice holidays too ;)
> Thanks, I'm going to spend my vacation in your country :-)
> 
> Stas
> 
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On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:54 PM, isa zen<isa...@gm...> wrote:

> I've got big problems with my computer when trying to upgrade to high to the
> testing version of Ubuntu Karmic, so I reinstalled the "recent" Ubuntu Hardy
> 8.04.3.
> When I wanted to install childsplay by synaptic, it's only the 0.85 version
> avalaible ! So I went to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/childsplay and
> I discovered that was true till Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty) ! They're only test
> Childsplay 1.1.2 in next Ubuntu 9.10 when Childsplay is up to version 1.3.
>
> So I wonder why such a difference between childsplay's versions available in
> Ubuntu repositories and these available on sourceforge ?
> Is it the same for other Linux distributions ?
I don't know why they still use old versions, Ubuntu is based on Debian which
is pretty much up to date thanks to Sergio.
My guess is that the Ubuntu people don't sync very often with Debian.

> It's not a critic, it's just a question ;) I'd like to understand that
> point, if you can explain me it'd be great !
>
> Thanks.
> Have nice holidays too ;)
Thanks, I'm going to spend my vacation in your country :-)

Stas

-- 
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http://www.schoolsplay.org  and http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Schoolsplay
http://gvr.sf.net and http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Guido_van_Robot

Hi,

Thanks for giving me permissions to edit in french websites wiki pages for
schoolsplay ;)

I've got big problems with my computer when trying to upgrade to high to the
testing version of Ubuntu Karmic, so I reinstalled the "recent" Ubuntu Hardy
8.04.3.
When I wanted to install childsplay by synaptic, it's only the 0.85 version
avalaible ! So I went to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/childsplay and
I discovered that was true till Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty) ! They're only test
Childsplay 1.1.2 in next Ubuntu 9.10 when Childsplay is up to version 1.3.

So I wonder why such a difference between childsplay's versions available in
Ubuntu repositories and these available on
sourceforge<http://www.schoolsplay.org/>?
Is it the same for other Linux distributions ?

It's not a critic, it's just a question ;) I'd like to understand that
point, if you can explain me it'd be great !

Thanks.
Have nice holidays too ;)

Regards,


PS : it's my last day with internet connection before 15 days I think, so no
urgency to answer me ;)
-- 
Isa.

Hello Chris,

I would also like to do a german translation of the site. A link from the frontpage for different languages would surely be nice.
Unfortunatly I have no clue how to do modify the site (parts of the site).

greetings
Markus


> Message du 26/07/09 21:36
> De : "Chris Van Bael" 
> A : "isa zen" 
> Copie à : sch...@li..., "childplay-devel" 
> Objet : Re: [Schoolsplay-devel] Translate website ? Fwd: Proposal for help texts and usage for the website
>
> 
> Hi Isa,
> 
> indeed you don't have the rights to do this.
> At least, you didn't: I send an invitation for our wiki to your wikidot user.
> Now you are a member of our wiki and you have full control on the
> website part of our wiki (they are marked with website: in the URL)
> 
> On the wiki part (marked with wiki: ) even anonymous users can create
> and edit pages.
> Also there you have now of course full control.
> 
> The activities pages are almost completely translated, automatically
> from the translations within the program.
> The main pages like
> http://schoolsplay.wikidot.com/website:childsplay-fr are indeed not
> translated because they are not in the program. We will try not to
> change that page too often ;-)
> Thank you for doing the translation for that page.
> 
> If any other translators want access to translate the main page for
> other languages, don't hesitate to contact me!
> 
> Chris
> 
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 3:26 PM, isa zen wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I don't know if the fwd old mails below are really related to my message
> > here, but I wonder if it would be possible to translate
> > http://schoolsplay.wikidot.com in differents languages ?
> > I see at the left bottom of that page
> > http://schoolsplay.wikidot.com/website:childsplay several links like
> > http://schoolsplay.wikidot.com/website:childsplay-fr but 0 page is
> > translated yet (I tried in de, ro, es...).
> >
> > I have an account as isazen on wikidot but I can't edit that page
> > http://schoolsplay.wikidot.com/website:childsplay-fr, maybe I don't have the
> > rights ?
> >
> > So can have I, please, the right to edit page on wiki and translate in
> > french http://schoolsplay.wikidot.com/website:childsplay-fr ?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Isa.
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: stas zytkiewicz 
> > Date: 2008/11/17
> > Subject: Re: [Schoolsplay-devel] Proposal for help texts and usage for the
> > website
> > To: Chris Van Bael 
> > Cc: sch...@li...
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Chris Van Bael
> > wrote:
> >> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:48 PM, stas zytkiewicz
> >> wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Chris Van Bael
> >
> >>>> See the feature requests.
> >>>> For example for the memory activities: the size of the grid and the
> >>>> range of numbers for number memory.
> >>> You mean options that the user can set, or at least for the memory
> >>> activities,
> >>> as I understand the request correctly.
> >>
> >> Yes, options to let the user change the activity.
> >>
> >>> It will make the activities much more complex and I don't think it would
> >>> be
> >>> much use as the grid sizes are limited.
> >>
> >> I don't agree.
> >> If you look at the grid size, there is a big difference between first
> >> 2-3 levels and the last levels.
> >> The first ones are doable for a child of 3 years old, but the last
> >> ones I find even difficult!
> >> So I would let the users adapt the activity difficulty according to
> >> their child's age for example.
> > Ok, but then you would have grids that are not square, I mean the bottom row
> > would have less cards then the line previous row.
> > Not that it's a big problem but it's perhaps not so nice to look at.
> > But I agree that higher levels are rather difficult.
> >
> >> Otherwise the child will only use the first levels of the activity for
> >> a long time.
> >> With options, you can make the 'grow' with the child.
> >>
> >> Or if the program is used in kindergarten school, in the first year
> >> they can set some easier grid, and higher years they can set more
> >> difficult grids.
> >>
> >> How would they make the activities much more complex?
> >> There do not have to be options for the sake of options, but because
> >> they could be functional.
> >> As I see it, you just read it from the database, if it is invalid or
> >> not present just use the hardcoded values.
> > That's right.
> > For memory the options wouldn't be very complex to implement.
> >
> >>> The progress for the child would be to finish a level quicker and
> >>> without errors.
> >>
> >> True, but levels 5 and 6 are so big, smaller children will not finish
> >> these, so not much progress here (only measured in years)
> >> So they will only play level 1-3 and then always stop.
> >> They could play 2 times as long with a more appropriate gride size ;)
> > Agreed.
> >
> >>> I don't see benefits in options. In old childsplay there are many options
> >>> but as far as I know they are never used by users. In 6 years nobody has
> >>> ever mentioned it.
> >>
> >> Maybe because they were not know?
> > It's in the help text.
> >
> >> I know I can change the grid size in the source code, but who will do
> >> that?
> > No, no, old childsplay has text based rc file to hold the options.
> >
> >> For sure not Windows users, because they only have compiled pyc files.
> >> I know about the extra images you can use for the puzzle activity, but
> >> still that is not really known.
> >> That's why I also want to make a page for each activity explaining
> >> these options.
> > It could help indeed.
> > And we already have the admin gui which is perhaps better than rc files
> > for most users.
> >
> >>>> The options don't have to be implemented for 1.0, but I would like the
> >>>> helptext functionality to be ready now.
> >>> That's the easy part, I can add that in 15 minutes :-)
> > Ok, I will spend 15 minutes adding the required methods to the activities
> > :-)
> >
> > To conclude:
> > I will start to implement the possibility for options in the
> > activities, starting with the memory
> > based ones.
> > The options will be available for users in version > 1.0.
> > The options will be described in the activities helptext part so that
> > it can be translated
> > and you can extract them with the script. (script would be updated)
> > You will add pages to the wiki/website describing the options for each
> > activity, if they
> > have options that is.
> >
> > Could you provide a proper options description for the memory
> > activities I could use?
> >
> > Stas
> >
> > --
> > Free-source educational programs for schools
> > http://www.schoolsplay.org and http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Schoolsplay
> > http://gvr.sf.net and http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Guido_van_Robot
> >
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> > Sch...@li...
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Isa.
> >
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Hi Isa,

indeed you don't have the rights to do this.
At least, you didn't: I send an invitation for our wiki to your wikidot user.
Now you are a member of our wiki and you have full control on the
website part of our wiki (they are marked with website:  in the URL)

On the wiki part (marked with wiki: ) even anonymous users can create
and edit pages.
Also there you have now of course full control.

The activities pages are almost completely translated, automatically
from the translations within the program.
The main pages like
http://schoolsplay.wikidot.com/website:childsplay-fr are indeed not
translated because they are not in the program.  We will try not to
change that page too often ;-)
Thank you for doing the translation for that page.

If any other translators want access to translate the main page for
other languages, don't hesitate to contact me!

Chris

On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 3:26 PM, isa zen<isa...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I don't know if the fwd old mails below are really related to my message
> here, but I wonder if it would be possible to translate
> http://schoolsplay.wikidot.com in differents languages  ?
> I see at the left bottom of that page
> http://schoolsplay.wikidot.com/website:childsplay several links like
> http://schoolsplay.wikidot.com/website:childsplay-fr but 0 page is
> translated yet (I tried in de, ro, es...).
>
> I have an account as isazen on wikidot but I can't edit that page
> http://schoolsplay.wikidot.com/website:childsplay-fr, maybe I don't have the
> rights ?
>
> So can have I, please,  the right to edit page on wiki and translate in
> french http://schoolsplay.wikidot.com/website:childsplay-fr ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Isa.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: stas zytkiewicz <sta...@gm...>
> Date: 2008/11/17
> Subject: Re: [Schoolsplay-devel] Proposal for help texts and usage for the
> website
> To: Chris Van Bael <chr...@gm...>
> Cc: sch...@li...
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Chris Van Bael
> <chr...@gm...> wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:48 PM, stas zytkiewicz
>> <sta...@gm...> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Chris Van Bael
>
>>>> See the feature requests.
>>>> For example for the memory activities: the size of the grid and the
>>>> range of numbers for number memory.
>>> You mean options that the user can set, or at least for the memory
>>> activities,
>>> as I understand the request correctly.
>>
>> Yes, options to let the user change the activity.
>>
>>> It will make the activities much more complex and I don't think it would
>>> be
>>> much use as the grid sizes are limited.
>>
>> I don't agree.
>> If you look at the grid size, there is a big difference between first
>> 2-3 levels and the last levels.
>> The first ones are doable for a child of 3 years old, but the last
>> ones I find even difficult!
>> So I would let the users adapt the activity difficulty according to
>> their child's age for example.
> Ok, but then you would have grids that are not square, I mean the bottom row
> would have less cards then the line previous row.
> Not that it's a big problem but it's perhaps not so nice to look at.
> But I agree that higher levels are rather difficult.
>
>> Otherwise the child will only use the first levels of the activity for
>> a long time.
>> With options, you can make the 'grow' with the child.
>>
>> Or if the program is used in kindergarten school, in the first year
>> they can set some easier grid, and higher years they can set more
>> difficult grids.
>>
>> How would they make the activities much more complex?
>> There do not have to be options for the sake of options, but because
>> they could be functional.
>> As I see it, you just read it from the database, if it is invalid or
>> not present just use the hardcoded values.
> That's right.
> For memory the options wouldn't be very complex to implement.
>
>>> The progress for the child would be to finish a level quicker and
>>> without errors.
>>
>> True, but levels 5 and 6 are so big, smaller children will not finish
>> these, so not much progress here (only measured in years)
>> So they will only play level 1-3 and then always stop.
>> They could play 2 times as long with a more appropriate gride size ;)
> Agreed.
>
>>> I don't see benefits in options. In old childsplay there are many options
>>> but as far as I know they are never used by users. In 6 years nobody has
>>> ever mentioned it.
>>
>> Maybe because they were not know?
> It's in the help text.
>
>> I know I can change the grid size in the source code, but who will do
>> that?
> No, no, old childsplay has text based rc file to hold the options.
>
>> For sure not Windows users, because they only have compiled pyc files.
>> I know about the extra images you can use for the puzzle activity, but
>> still that is not really known.
>> That's why I also want to make a page for each activity explaining
>> these options.
> It could help indeed.
> And we already have the admin gui which is perhaps better than rc files
> for most users.
>
>>>> The options don't have to be implemented for 1.0, but I would like the
>>>> helptext functionality to be ready now.
>>> That's the easy part, I can add that in 15 minutes :-)
> Ok, I will spend 15 minutes adding the required methods to the activities
> :-)
>
> To conclude:
> I will start to implement the possibility for options in the
> activities, starting with the memory
> based ones.
> The options will be available for users in version > 1.0.
> The options will be described in the activities helptext part so that
> it can be translated
> and you can extract them with the script. (script would be updated)
> You will add pages to the wiki/website describing the options for each
> activity, if they
> have options that is.
>
> Could you provide a proper options description for the memory
> activities I could use?
>
> Stas
>
> --
> Free-source educational programs for schools
> http://www.schoolsplay.org  and http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Schoolsplay
> http://gvr.sf.net and http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Guido_van_Robot
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great
> prizes
> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world
> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/
> _______________________________________________
> Schoolsplay-devel mailing list
> Sch...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/schoolsplay-devel
>
>
>
> --
> Isa.
>

Hi,

I don't know if the fwd old mails below are really related to my message
here, but I wonder if it would be possible to translate
http://schoolsplay.wikidot.com in differents languages  ?
I see at the left bottom of that page
http://schoolsplay.wikidot.com/website:childsplay several links like
http://schoolsplay.wikidot.com/website:childsplay-fr but 0 page is
translated yet (I tried in de, ro, es...).

I have an account as isazen on wikidot but I can't
edit<http://www.wikidot.com/faq:editing-pages#toc0>that page
http://schoolsplay.wikidot.com/website:childsplay-fr, maybe I don't have the
rights ?

So can have I, please,  the right to edit page on wiki and translate in
french http://schoolsplay.wikidot.com/website:childsplay-fr
?<http://schoolsplay.wikidot.com/website:childsplay-fr>

Thanks.

Isa.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: stas zytkiewicz <sta...@gm...>
Date: 2008/11/17
Subject: Re: [Schoolsplay-devel] Proposal for help texts and usage for the
website
To: Chris Van Bael <chr...@gm...>
Cc: sch...@li...


On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Chris Van Bael
<chr...@gm...> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:48 PM, stas zytkiewicz
> <sta...@gm...> wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Chris Van Bael

>>> See the feature requests.
>>> For example for the memory activities: the size of the grid and the
>>> range of numbers for number memory.
>> You mean options that the user can set, or at least for the memory
activities,
>> as I understand the request correctly.
>
> Yes, options to let the user change the activity.
>
>> It will make the activities much more complex and I don't think it would
be
>> much use as the grid sizes are limited.
>
> I don't agree.
> If you look at the grid size, there is a big difference between first
> 2-3 levels and the last levels.
> The first ones are doable for a child of 3 years old, but the last
> ones I find even difficult!
> So I would let the users adapt the activity difficulty according to
> their child's age for example.
Ok, but then you would have grids that are not square, I mean the bottom row
would have less cards then the line previous row.
Not that it's a big problem but it's perhaps not so nice to look at.
But I agree that higher levels are rather difficult.

> Otherwise the child will only use the first levels of the activity for
> a long time.
> With options, you can make the 'grow' with the child.
>
> Or if the program is used in kindergarten school, in the first year
> they can set some easier grid, and higher years they can set more
> difficult grids.
>
> How would they make the activities much more complex?
> There do not have to be options for the sake of options, but because
> they could be functional.
> As I see it, you just read it from the database, if it is invalid or
> not present just use the hardcoded values.
That's right.
For memory the options wouldn't be very complex to implement.

>> The progress for the child would be to finish a level quicker and
>> without errors.
>
> True, but levels 5 and 6 are so big, smaller children will not finish
> these, so not much progress here (only measured in years)
> So they will only play level 1-3 and then always stop.
> They could play 2 times as long with a more appropriate gride size ;)
Agreed.

>> I don't see benefits in options. In old childsplay there are many options
>> but as far as I know they are never used by users. In 6 years nobody has
>> ever mentioned it.
>
> Maybe because they were not know?
It's in the help text.

> I know I can change the grid size in the source code, but who will do
that?
No, no, old childsplay has text based rc file to hold the options.

> For sure not Windows users, because they only have compiled pyc files.
> I know about the extra images you can use for the puzzle activity, but
> still that is not really known.
> That's why I also want to make a page for each activity explaining
> these options.
It could help indeed.
And we already have the admin gui which is perhaps better than rc files
for most users.

>>> The options don't have to be implemented for 1.0, but I would like the
>>> helptext functionality to be ready now.
>> That's the easy part, I can add that in 15 minutes :-)
Ok, I will spend 15 minutes adding the required methods to the activities
:-)

To conclude:
I will start to implement the possibility for options in the
activities, starting with the memory
based ones.
The options will be available for users in version > 1.0.
The options will be described in the activities helptext part so that
it can be translated
and you can extract them with the script. (script would be updated)
You will add pages to the wiki/website describing the options for each
activity, if they
have options that is.

Could you provide a proper options description for the memory
activities I could use?

Stas

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Free-source educational programs for schools
http://www.schoolsplay.org  and http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Schoolsplay
http://gvr.sf.net and http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Guido_van_Robot

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Isa.